In this must-listen episode of "Beyond the Donation," Julia Devine sits down to talk with Donor Dock.

Julia's all about putting yourself in the donors' shoes. She's convinced that seeing the world from their point of view is the game-changer that many nonprofits overlook. To Julia, relationships with donors can't just be about asking for cash and ghosting until you need more – it's about a real two-way street where donors feel seen and valued beyond their wallets.

And let's be real, it's 2023 – if your nonprofit isn't tech-savvy, you're basically living in the Dark Ages. Julia's pushing for everyone to get on board with the latest tech to make those donor interactions smoother, more effective, and, let's face it, a whole lot less awkward.

Her advice? Keep it fresh and insightful. Do the work – talk to your donors, volunteers, your team – and find out what's working and what's a total flop. She's a huge proponent of testing and tweaking your strategies and keeping a close eye on what's bringing in results through tracking your metrics.

But wait – there's more. Julia's got some new projects cooking at Devine Parker, like the “DonorFlow Academy” online course, which is like a masterclass for elevating donor engagement. And for those nonprofit pros flirting with the idea of consultancy? She's dropping a new training program to bridge that gap.

For anyone in the nonprofit space looking to step up their donor game, this episode with Julia isn't just helpful – it's practically required listening. Get the full scoop and hear it straight from the source on the Donor Dock podcast. 

Listen to the full episode here.